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Your Personal Stock Terms

Journal Entry: Mon Jan 11, 2010, 10:58 AM


The Language You Use Is Very Important

deviantART has a large and devoted stock resource community and we really do appreciate their presence and their generosity with the community.

I do have something very important I'd like to mention for everyone who offers some sort of stock resource so hopefully those who read my journal will help to disseminate the information and spread it around to those who might not otherwise read it.

The concern that I have is Terms of Use.

Officially deviantART maintains only one "automatic" restriction and that is "No Commercial Use" and that particular restriction can easily be overridden by the actual stock provider.

As far as official policy is concerned each stock resource provider is free to attach any Terms of Use, restrictions or requirements that they see fit and I and my staff will do the best we can to help you enforce your rules when you need the assistance.

We only ask a few things from you in return.

Your terms or restrictions should be easy to find, they should be clearly written and understandable and, if you need our help to enforce them, they should be easy for the staff to verify.

Unfortunately there are certain terms, requirements and restrictions that we have trouble helping you out with and I'm going to briefly run through the ones which are the major problems here and suggest ways that you can help us to help you with a minimum of pain and anguish.

Notifications

The Problem
You want to be notified via comment, via note, via email, letter, carrier pigeon, etc.

Unfortunately the staff either has a hard time confirming whether or not this required notification has happened or just plain cannot verify at all because of the way you want it done.

The Solution
Instead of asking for notification ask for proper crediting in the Artist Comments, or have them watermark a credit directly on the work. Having the credit attached to the work is far easier for the staff to verify than some private conversation.


Minimums

The Problem
You want your resource to have at least a certain amount of "something" done to it, for example you don't want to just see some Motion Blur applied and the whole thing thing tinted blue; you want actual effort invested and major changes done.

It is very important that your minimum requirements sound like requirements and not like preferences and that they can't be interpreted as being optional.

The Solution
Make certain that you state these minimum requirements in no uncertain terms. Don't say, "Please do more than change the color", instead state, "Every use of this resource MUST consist of substantial manipulation". Don't say, "You must change it by at least 25%" because someone might argue with what you consider to be "25%" and the staff is more likely to agree with you if you don't think something was "substantially manipulated".


Requirements

The Problem
You want your resource to include something specific so you ask, "Please Do X", or, "I prefer that you do Y".

Like the last item it is very important that your requirements sound like requirements and not like preferences and that they can't be interpreted as being optional. If your requirement sounds uncertain or more like a request or anything other than a hard-and-fast "Must Be Done" rule then the staff may have a hard time backing up your claim.

The Solution
Make certain that you state these minimum requirements in no uncertain terms. Don't say, "Please include a triangle shape in every use", instead state, "Every use of this resource MUST contain a triangle shape in the finished product". Make certain that your requirement clearly reads like a requirement.


Restrictions

The Problem
You don't want your resource to be used a certain way so you say, "No magical themes", or , "No disrespect to women allowed".

It is very important that your restrictions be clearly defined, if your definition isn't crystal clear the staff may find themselves unable to agree that your restrictions were ignored.

The Solution
Make certain that your restrictions are crystal clear; don't say, "No magical themes", say, "No manipulations including magical themes such as warlocks, wizards, witch doctors, fairies, dragons, elves, or other mythological creatures or related subjects".

By giving examples of how you don't want it used both the community and the staff will have a better understanding of your definition and what you don't want. Always try to be very clear in your restrictions.


I hope this helps everyone out there who has been generous enough to offer resources up to the community.

As always we're always available for questions and assistance, even if it might take awhile to get a personal reply =p

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:icondt7stock:
dt7Stock Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2010   Photographer
This is most helpful, thank you :)
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jezebe11e Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2010
Your journals are the reason I'm still wishing for a :+favlove: button for journals. :clap:
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Helewidis Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2010   Photographer
what tempst said :B

:hug:
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tmpst24myst Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2010  Student Writer
Yes sir =p.

I've missed reading your journals. :excited:
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ellastasia Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2010
Btw, your third to last stamp in your custom journal box has transformed from an image into text. :)
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WDWParksGal-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Uh-huh. I can really control what happens to ANY deviation once it is posted on the Internet. Not. Which is exactly why my "rules" state on my profile page that I couldn't care less what anyone does with my stock on or off dA. What I find truly amusing are those deviants who state "If you don't obey my rules I'll hunt you down..." Pause. Ahhhhhh-hahahahahahahaha! And just how is anyone going to peruse billions of images on the Internet to find some violation of a stock gallery's rule?

It is quite nice of dA to post these clarifications for stock artists. Especially for those who seem to have more limitations than allowances for stock. My heart pumps peanut butter for them.
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PirateLotus-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
Awesome!
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:icondan-heffer:
Dan-Heffer Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
awesome, thanks for this :D :salute:
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:icondoubtful-della:
Doubtful-Della Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional Photographer
Good to know. I have a simple rule guide in each deviation and an expanded TOS in my journal
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:iconmimustock:
mimustock Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
very good information. thank you!
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pittstop Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
Yeah much as some people like to be generous and let people reference their artwork, there are always some who take advantage and blatantly disregard the artists preferences for usage. This will certainly arm a few people to know how to phrase those guidelines in future.
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Amarie-Veneanar Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
This was a very good and informative read! :clap: I would also like to fave this as a news article. Especially your given examples are really useful. I plan to rewrite the rules on my stock account in the next time, so this journal comes in handy. Thank you very much! :heart:
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Ryugexu Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
That is helpful.

If its not too big a bother, could you please take a look over my stock accounts rules? :iconryu-stock: is the account... please tell me if I've done it well enough or if I've overdone it or not enough
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ELStalky Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've been wondering about the following for a while, what 'counts' when someone posts a deviation under a creative commons license and then goes on to prohibit certain actions (via the artist's comments) that the license permits?
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Lindowyn Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
You mean all this time I have blatantly disregarded the possibility of CARRIER PIGEON NOTIFICATION?!?! :faint: My gods...I've been doing it wrong!

Also, really, thank you for this. :)
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Warflight Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional Photographer
Though I myself do not do my photography for the purposes of stock, I have yet to say no to anyone who has ever asked... though I have asked to see the finished product, of course...
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mimose-stock Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
please make a news out of it so I can fav :aww:
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PirateLotus-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
Thirded!
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GoldeenHerself Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010   Traditional Artist
Seconded!
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:iconraeyenirael-stock:
RaeyenIrael-Stock Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
very helpful actually :)
I think im going to go review my rules now
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:iconelandria:
Elandria Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional General Artist
:salute: Makes perfect sense, though I would say very few artists really want to add credits to their on their artwork, not when some people have credit lists as long as their arms lol
But yer, its all about the common sense!
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dazza1008 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
Makes sense... news item +1
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IreneLangholm Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Wish I could fav this journal. Could you perhaps link to it via a News item? :)
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:iconmollinda:
Mollinda Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010   Traditional Artist
Sometimes I wish to kiss ye :D
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Casperium Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Excellent suggestions! I will review my terms on my stock account and makes sure the language is more precise. In over 2 years of having an account, I have only had to contact the complaint desk once for help against a deviant.(knock on wood) So far my biggest problem is getting people to ask permission for Prints BEFORE they hit the print button. I like to make sure that they have actually followed my rules before the try to make Prints.
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jenepooh Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
:clap: :D
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:iconxerces:
Xerces Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
ah- very well said. some good clear info there- i'll have to check up on my stock account.
What sort of thing would you advise when stock artists ask people not to use their stock in prints? Some people add prints by accident, some add them on purpose, but is there any way for stock artists to request they are not used in prints on dA (obviously other printing places would be different)
Thanks for the clarifications and examples :-)
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Lady-Blackdove Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Excellent, this will come in very useful!
Thank you kindly!
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tiganesc Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional
but the notifications by letter pigeon are what keep me going :<
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:iconxerces:
Xerces Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
you need to stop and think about the pigeons once in a while! :shakefist:
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:icontiganesc:
tiganesc Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Professional
but they fly ever so beautifully into my patio doors :<
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:iconxerces:
Xerces Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
:-(
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:iconpyritie:
Pyritie Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*THUNK*
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:iconamarie-veneanar:
Amarie-Veneanar Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
Dinner is ready. :chew:
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Pyritie Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:fear:
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UnicornReality Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
This is super. :heart:
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Branchewski Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
:clap:
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