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With the growing abundance of affordable 3D modeling and rendering programs it was only a matter of time until generous artists began offering finished 3D renders as stock artwork for others to use in their works.

While the generosity of these 3D stock artists is to be applauded there are others who taint the 3D stock movement by offering chopped up works which rightfully belong to others. I’ll attempt to draw a distinctive line between the two types of 3D stock which you will find available.

Be aware that your choice to use or offer the wrong type of 3D stock can result in your submissions being removed and even action being taken against your account.

The acceptable form of 3D stock is one in which you, the submitting artist, has personally posed, textured and rendered the model or scene in question. This involves the purchase of a program capable of handling and rendering figures, models and textures or the use of an open source program capable of the same feats. Regardless of the program used the image was actually rendered in real time using your computer at your command.
Your choice of models can range from the program defaults to model data purchased from various companies. Most model vendors do not allow you to distribute the model data but place no restrictions on what you do with the images made using their models. Please try to make note of which vendor the model was purchased from in your deviation description, although this is not a requirement it will help avoid confusion and misunderstandings.

The unacceptable form of 3D “stock” is the situation where you simply take a wallpaper, artwork, screenshot or other work and simply cut it up, erase the background and generally chop it into component pieces. What makes this unacceptable is the fact that you are doing this with somebody else’s property. Whether it’s a video game company, motion picture film, deviantART artist or just something that you found in some corner of the internet the fact of the matter is that you need to obtain permission and/or licensing before you can begin offering your “stock” because it isn’t your property to offer in the first place.
To compound the confusion many copyright infringers refer to their illegal “stock” as “renders” or “tubes”, both being terms which are sometimes applied to real 3D stock art, and entire websites and communities have sprung up to cater to the myth that you may simply hack up someone else’s property and call it your own ‘stock art”.

Please make certain that your offering, and use of, 3D stock falls within the acceptable range. We have many very generous and very versatile 3D stock artists on deviantART who have purchased programs and models and who generously donate their renders for use by the public so please rely on them and let them know what a valuable asset to the community they are.

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:iconlindblut:
Lindblut Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
>The unacceptable form of 3D “stock” is the situation where you simply take a wallpaper, artwork, screenshot or other work and simply cut it up, erase the background and generally chop it into component pieces. What makes this unacceptable is the fact that you are doing this with somebody else’s property.

Yet Deviantart does NOTHING to enforce that this garbage does not fester on this website.
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SiathLinux Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's good that this is written in a clear easy to read and understand way, as I personally am tired of seeing the Video game charactor and or vehicle being abused by various 'so called artist'

Bravo!
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mpaperless Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2007
I totally agree with the idea and hope people wont use their fake imagefor real fame. Self satisfaction of the Artist is his/her great asset for life. I wish you for good.
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LyinRyan Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2007
I recently had someone to ask if they could use my fractals as "tubes". I don't know much at all about this. I read the article here. Should I allow the person or shouldn't I allow the person? I don't want my art stolen in any shape, form or fashion. Or changed in any way.

Thanks for any clarification given!!
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Teresa2845 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2007
Its just a matter of common sense! If you are cutting an image out of a beautiful back ground and you see a signature on that image. Well DUH your ripping somebody off. Unless and there are artists that allow use of there stuff, but you must follow there terms and provide a link to their site. So if your getting an image from someone and that info about the artist is there, check out that artists website to make sure of their terms. If there isn't a name on it, DELETE IT! I have heard people say that using a tube cheapens the art. RUDE, its no different than getting stock where the image is cutout from the back ground. I have seen alot of that here on DA. PNG images or PSD is the same has a PSP tube. It would be nice if all artists could get along. I have also heard alot of poser bashing going on. I love the poser stuff, it must take talent to use that program because I don't know the first thing about it. I just love looking at all the beautiful art of all kinds here at DA. I really haven't found anything I am good at. DA is great for seeing all kinds of art, but alot of the insults need to stop. And of course there are people everywhere who steal and cheat. I have seen some innocent people get accused and that is just not right at all. Before pointing fingers try getting hard core facts. Because you never know whose finger is going to point at you and get you shut down for nothing!
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Violineczka Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2007
Ok :] !
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webruichi Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2007  Professional Photographer
i agree wit dat! :headbang:
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brute101 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2007
Is it the same thing if u made an avatar after a drawing that someone else did?i made my avatar after a drawing i found but IT WAS NOT AN AVATAR! just a drawing so i liked it and made an avatar with different colors out of it
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Zenrei Featured By Owner May 31, 2007   Filmographer
hm i woudnt have reconized the avatr untill you mentioned it. it's the head of one of the crimson cloud ninjas from Naruto Shippunden, minus the color change
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little-reisuke Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2007
eh?
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Pabx Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2007
yeah yeah fuck yaz
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Jackalzx Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2007
Yes. Good read.
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apsolut Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
:D
let it bee.e.e.
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h123pinky Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2007
wow cool!! i am new here hope you will help out!
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moonprotector Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2007
Wow, that is true, .....DON'T TOUCH MY PROPERTY!!!!!!!!!!
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Me163 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2007   General Artist
agreed
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GhostManZeroEXE Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2007
"The unacceptable form of 3D “stock” is the situation where you simply take a wallpaper, artwork, screenshot or other work and simply cut it up, erase the background and generally chop it into component pieces."

Considering that i'm a programmer and i write my own programs to do most of my 3D artwork, i usually just printscreen my 3D artwork and post it in my gallery.

Would this be acceptable, considering that its my own artwork, automatically generated or using freely available 3D models? (or using commercial models and publically displaying that that model is (c) <company name)

Also, is it acceptable to submit flash videos of my programs which were recorded with FRAPS?

Thank you for your time and i hope you reply soon!
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copperphoenix Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2007
I hope you don't mind an unofficial answer, but it seems you're worried about nothing. The manner of capturing your own original artwork into digital form for distribution is not at issue -- the only concern is that what you distribute does, indeed, need to be YOUR original art. Since it's clearly obvious from your description that your work falls into that category (after all, you can't get much more original than something you created from scratch with software which you also created from scratch), you need have no concerns about sharing it here. This holds true whether it's done in the form of screenshots of your creations, or Flash recordings, or in any other medium which can be uploaded to this site in some way. As always, the essential key point remains the same -- it must be YOUR work.

Again, I hope you don't mind the unofficial answer, but I'd hate to see a creator of original works stuck worrying about as minor a technical point as this, when the intent of this piece was to stop people from chopping up other people's creations, and distributing the component parts as their own work.

Analogously, if I take apart a car engine made by someone else, I can't then claim to have made the spark plug, radiator, and oil filter myself, just because I liberated them from their original context. They are still the creations of their original manufacturer.

If, on the other hand, I design and create a new type of air filter, from scratch, it doesn't matter that I have to disassemble the engine in order to show the work to others -- because the disassembling is not the concern, it is only that the piece be of my own manufacture.

Does this help clarify this issue? I hope so. :)

Happy creating!
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GhostManZeroEXE Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2007
No, i indeed dont mind, but since they said that it had to be made with a program from their list, and that a flash vid cant be a "i got an avi lets convert it to SWF"-style flash vid, i didnt know if it'd be accepted, really....
But thank you for your answer, it does make perfect sense. :)
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Kai-the-hedgehog Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2007
excellent
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grnCHEEZ Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2007
Yeh!!!!!!!!!! Power to the people
:headbang:
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juniper-jumper Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2007   Digital Artist
wooohooo!
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Rikerish Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2007
just read the main item, and totally agree with the idea. Am new to 3d art, so am only up to the stage of creating the pictures. But alway give credit to the model/texture makers, where i can. Hopefully, not to far away, will be able to put back the knowledge i've gained from these generous people, and create my own stuff to put out there............B-)
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uglycuz Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2007
rightttttttttttttttt
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ware-cat Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2007
Yeah thank you for the reminder. I hope people find it usefull in creating their works.
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oninoshiko Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Regardless of the program used the image was actually rendered in real time using your computer at your command."

Hate to be the one to argue over wording, and I am pritty sure I know what you MEAN, but:

1) Real time: I just purchaced a nice happy Core 2 duo machine, IT can't render my work in real time. My previous machine was a P3-800... ('real time' has a vary spacific meaning, and I don't think it is what you mean...)

2) using your computer: this should read "using a computer which you are authorized to be using for rendering." There are a number of vendors such as ResPower (note: this is not an indorsment, I have never used their services) who lease render-farm time. Using one of these services should not be considered a violation of dA's policies.
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fangarius Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2007
That's good to know, usually I strive on sketching my own backgrounds, or using Photoshop to generate them, as well as forming my own designs.

Simply because as you stated, just because you might cut and paste an image that looks good, you're actually taking from someone without permission.

Usually most people don't comprehend the fact about 'renders' and 'tubing,' and presume if they obtain something from an obscure website--or the artist responsible hasn't created new art for awhile--it's perfectly acceptible to do it.

When in reality, it's just as bad as if someone outside or from DA rips your own art, alters it with a paint program, then has the audacity of calling it their own artwork.

Simply put, either obtain the proper permission, don't use it, or try making your own designs and backgrounds, because then you can honestly say it was 'your' artwork to begin with.

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denegibson Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2007
"With the growing abundance of affordable 3D modeling and rendering programs"

Blender? Povray? Wings 3D?

coolies anyway, although I haven't really done much 3D modeling it's useful to know that stuff for future reference ...
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JessMcNoodle Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2007
erm... this diesnt mean anything to me as im technologically disadvantaged :shrug: but i have seen a few ppl who do this and its not cool, i thought it was just something that was accepted :O nice to know otherwise........
oh and by the way how do you create a link? i am SO behind the times :blush: :(
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lokisapunk Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2007
Where would hand drawn/colored of interiors go? They aren't on a computer so I don't think they belong with the rest of the rendered interiors?
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MrDarksMayhem-C Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2007  Professional Artist
These are some good pointers for...weel ...just in case I upgrade my work into 3-D.

I love vampires, mainly female.
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kame8947 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2007
...
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SnowDropAngel Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2007  Professional General Artist
:O
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mrbilgisayar Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2007
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bushidohacks Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
You know, I was going to make a reference to the "Series of Tubes" incident, but more than likely someone has already posted it.
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maretta Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! :)
It makes me so mad when I see artist post an image with like 3 links below. One for the background, one for the model, and one for some added details. Ugh, that not art!!! That cut and paste!!!!
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Ratafluke Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2007
Well, photo manipulation is all about cutting and pasting, and the whole Digital Art > Photomanipulation gallery is dedicating to the art of cutting and pasting ;]
The only problem (which has been adressed in this news article) is the use of images for which people don't have the permission to cut and paste them.
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maretta Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree. It's just that I feel in Photo manpulation should not be 3 different pieces (someone else took the time and talent to create) all put together as their work. The only work there, is really one of computer skill. However, if an artist takes a piece of their work and uses(with permission) another artist's work merely to enhance their own image or uses a piece (with permission) to create an illusion by detailing each pixel and visualizing a surreal work of orginal art goes beyond merely coping and pasting.
Hope that makes a little more sense. :)
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Ratafluke Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2007
I see your point, but I still disagree. Describing photo manipulations as a mere cutting and pasting that's akin to describing painting as a mere applying of pigments to canvas. On a technical level, both are just that. the art lies in the composition, in the decision which pigment or which stock image you arrange where in the image to create the desired effect.
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maretta Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Aside from this for a second, WOW you have one amazing gallery!! Truely breath-taking!!
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Ratafluke Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2007
Wow, thank you! That's like the most flattering feedback I've received so far! :aww: I don't even consider myself that great... but seems I have improved more than I give myself credit for :]
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megamandos Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2007
thank you. man, i totaly agree.
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RhohamandLilith Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2007  Student General Artist
any one know any way for me to get a free model thing for DAZ3D? i'm really knew to this kind of thing and i'm under 18 so buying stuff is difficuly *sigh*
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they7692 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2007  Hobbyist Artist
AH ok... so i need to remove "Black Anus" then ::animesweat::
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bluelook Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2007
It should be obvious that you can't cut and paste anything that isn't yours, whether a drawing or 3d scene, but some people don't care.
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chrismakesmusic Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2007   Photographer
This whole money aspect of art would mean alot more to me if i was actually making some. Thanks though! <3
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mkmkmk Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2007
i've spent nearly 15 years doing 3d.
today is the first time i've heard of 'tubes'!!! wtf?!

but yeah. death to the rippers. etc
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U-238 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2007
Yeah man original work all the way!
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blacklock Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am a 3D artsit and would like to know if there is any way of uploading short animations to my profile, rather than just single frame renders of my work?can anybody help or point me in the right direction..?Would be much appreciated!
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liquid-snake Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2007
consider the following, render to video, upload to zamzar.com (to convert it to flv) use your own flv player (or download one already made)... or upload to youtube and give us the link (see the lowres, 10 minutes version of it at ...)

The cool thing is that you get more exposure, and your work can be appreciated more easily.

Hope this helps...
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