The Reasoning & The Rant
Let's start with a little background explanation;
For both legal and moral reasons we must deny any actual child erotica or child pornography from being submitted here. D'uh, that's essentially legal lesson number one since you can get tossed in a dark hole by the FBI for allowing that sort of twisted crap on your website.
What I have found is that most rational 'normal' people find actual, real child erotica incredibly offensive, and rightly so. But for some reason some people find
fictional children are perfectly fine to drool at sexually and fap over. I mean, chasing after a fifteen year old girl or boy is fine if you're the same age but I think by the time you break into your twenties or thirties if you're still doing the same lusting after you probably need to check into a padded cell somewhere for the protection of society in general.
Let's face it, these people are out there and fictional children are a 'legitimate' target for their twisted attentions because, as of this writing, the legal system doesn't recognize fictional child erotica and pornography as being "wrong"; although there have been several pushes in the United States to change that.
So, often people who are interested in this sort of illegal content featuring children will turn to the 'safe harbor' of cartoons and fictional characters in an attempt to satisfy their desire to view children as sexual objects.
Now do we want to attract these twisted freaks here? Of course not.
Anybody who has followed the refinement of our child nudity policy can clearly see that we want to make deviantART an undesirable destination for freaks.
But addressing photography is only half the effort without addressing fictional presentations and I took measures long ago to ensure that our policy covers this contingency by prohibiting this content on deviantART.
You can call if "censorship" or "unfair" or whatever you want but these are in fact perfectly reasonable controls and if you can't understand why we think they are necessary just think about how many times MySpace has gotten bad press as being a haven for pedophiles and online predators.
So, this particular set of policies have been around since I was granted the responsibility of guiding official policy. They aren't new, although they've been clarified and refined over the years, and they've been enforced the same way for years.
Now since we deny fictional child erotica I noticed an immediate trend by these types of people to seek a loophole by drawing the characters erotically in their original form and simply claiming that they are of legal age in the work.
So the character looks pretty much exactly the way the twelve year old character looks but you write
"SHE IS 18" in your description, slap nipples the size of coffee cups on her bare breasts give her an oversized fat ass and sit back in comfort and the perceived safety of your manufactured loophole and you reap in the hundred comments of
"FAPFAPFAP" and
"OMG SEXY" from like-minded individuals and bask in the glory of Boob-Artist Popularity.
My apologies but I'm not buying into your loophole and I'm not letting you get away with it either.
In order to block this type of transparent effort to submit child erotica our policy prohibits erotica of any fictional character who is well known and established to be underage in their original context and this policy is strictly enforced.
This is due to the simple fact that, while official reference sheets exist for these characters showing exactly how they should be drawn the reality is that practically nobody outside of the production studios actually follows them so most of the fan art shows unmistakable resemblance but otherwise is not a "faithful" recreation.
In order to address individual stylistic differences and levels of skill and ability we simply cannot accept a claim that you drew that fourteen year old "older" so it's perfectly okay to be showing her with size Double-F breasts flapping in the wind and a thong crammed up her butt crack while she lays spread eagle with her ankles up behind her ears.
So we've been shooting down that poor excuse for ages now, and we'll continue to do so in the future, but I have to give you child erotica people credit for sniffing out new loopholes in order to get your fix.
The newest excuses making the rounds use "epilogue" episodes or chapters as a potential loophole in our policy. I'm sure that you've seen some sort of long running, over-saturated, cash cow series which finally comes to an end; the type where the last episode tries to resolve all the overly hormonal
who-sleeps-with-who fan questions because it's never ever coming back again and won't have any spin-offs? Well sometimes they'll do
Epilogues which show the future, anywhere from weeks, months or years in the future.
The
Harry Potter series did it with a paragraph or two at the end of the last book, the
Inuyasha series did it with Chapter 558 of the manga and even Kim Possible did it with their last-ever episode.
I can understand why the creators do this sort of thing; it gives the fans a sense of closure
and it doubles as a STFU-And-Don't-Bother-Me message as well.
As far as Official Policy is concerned these Epilogues don't count. If that makes me a Prick to some people then I'll wear that badge.
One epilogue chapter of a character being eighteen is not going to rule out 557 chapters of them being an unchanging fifteen.
One half-page epilogue of a character being in their thirties will not rule out 4110 pages of them being a legal minor.
A series ending movie episode of a high school graduation will not erase 87 episodes of a character being a legal minor.
These aren't real people that we are talking about here, they are cartoons and while some series will possess continuity between episodes the actual logical passage of time is ignored by the writers in order to carry the premise of the show which essentially remains unchanged for the length of the series; a prime example is the
Ben 10 cartoon series in which the entire four season run of episodes takes place during a single summer vacation.
But I digress;
My final closing message on this subject is, and always will be, if you want to draw erotica then I advise that you do not choose children's programming as your source and not to choose underage characters as your subject.
Agree or disagree and feel free to debate the subject here if you wish.
Devious Comments
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I can practically guarantee I'll be addressing the same thing officially next year too.
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Daniel (realitysquared)
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for me it is ok, because it is not erotic, but it nude, and to me it is kinda related... also given in mind other rules. I've seen one faq talking about a grey area, and my journal wasn't deleted, but I'm still asking anyway...
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Eloísa Valdes,
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^Helewidis & ^estudio aka dA's Bonnie & Clyde
Just search for Kim Possible and you get some nice art--- and then you also get some pretty messed up stuff. Unfortunately, some of it skirts past the rules because it shows a barely-clothed character in an adult situation or pose.
I like seeing creativity with an established character but geez, some of it is pretty messed up.
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Sad you had to say it again, but it's good that you did. Some people just don't listen.
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